Getting zero (0) values of VH backscatter

Hello,

We are using statistical Hub Api to get the SAR backscatter values on a road segment. While doing that we are using a date range of 1 March 2022 - 31 march 2022. VV values are well received for the time range mentioned, but majority of the VH values are zero on the same road segment. Also at same dates where VV is available, VH is not available. Kindly suggest if this is normal or there is some issue in our approach


Hi Jags,

Please can you provide the full request so that we can look into it. We need the AOI and timerange to be able to debug what is going wrong. Working and non-working examples would be greatly appreciated :slight_smile:

Hi William,

Thanks for the quick response.

Here the screenshot for full request and Area of interest as a shape file.

I am not able to upload the shape file, can you suggest an alternative to share the AOI file



If you can share the geojson string of the area of interest, this is sufficient.

In addition, you are aware that the revisit time of Sentinel-1 was at best 5 days (pre Sentinel-1B failure in 2022)? Since then revisit times are not as good, and parts of the world are not covered at all. You can read more into this in the documentation here.

Sure William,

I am still not able to upload the geojson string here. I have tried using .zip as well. is there any email where I can send that?

Hi,

You can either open the file in a text editor and copy and paste the contents or send the file to info@sentinel-hub.com.

Hi William,

Please have a look at the geojson content here. Looking forward to your response. Understanding these zero values are very crucial now.

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                "From_long": 73.14024397,
                "Carriagewa": 3.7,
                "PCI": 4
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Hi,

For the polygons that you have supplied, there are indeed only two acquisitions in the time period that you requested. I have checked this in Catalog API. The only issue I can see where you might also be missing data is:

  1. Some of your road segments are outside the image footprint of the Sentinel-1 acquisition.
  2. Your road buffer may need to be widened. Your buffer is 9m in width, whilst your image resolution is 10x10m, and this may result in unexpected behaviour as the AOI used for the calculation is narrower than the resolution of the imagery you are using for the calculation.

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